Sometimes unexpectedly CORY OLIVER goes into trances wherein he is assaulted by alien sounds, visuals, and occasionally the world around him alters entirely. Cory simply refers to these attacks as “hallucinations”.
At the age of 14 Cory was diagnosed with a mild form of Schizophrenia. Over the years he has learned to cope with the disorder through weekly group therapy meetings and with the help of people like his friend Justin, who likewise battles with the same condition .
When Cory explained his situation to me I asked him to sketch anything and everything that came to him during one of his spells. Time and time again these documentations of his schizophrenia were simultaneously beautiful, disturbing, and above all brilliant. Each page of sketches are like a puzzle of his subconscious mind spilling out for all to admire.
In each of our interviews Cory and I will talk about the origins and the possible meanings behind these hallucination inspired sketches.
CORY OLIVER HALLUCINATION JOURNAL: INTERVIEW #1
“FORGET HER, FORGET HER”
ADAM: So, you were having this hallucination while we were talking online the other day?
CORY: Yeah, I remember sitting here talking to you and I started feeling light-headed, and then I was sort of overtaken by these quick sounds and images.
ADAM: What sounds did you hear?
CORY: I heard this sort of bassy, rumbling noise and something that sounded like an irregular heartbeat, and when I saw all of those eyes I heard this strange whispering and speaking, like a ton of people speaking all different languages.
ADAM: You wrote the words "THE MEEK" near those eyes. What does that phrase mean to you?
CORY:I think I was trying to convey that the eyes were the eyes of 'the meek', or like the common people. I remembered the phrase 'and the meek shall inherit the earth' around then, and I thought the meek fit.
ADAM: Just to the left of the eyes there is a seemingly unrelated scribble. What does that represent?
CORY: Ah, I think there I was trying to draw the scenery, albeit poorly. I commonly see these destroyed or ruined buildings accompanied by dead trees, and I should have spent more time fleshing that out. I think I did in a couple of my later drawings, and one of my earlier ones actually. My hands were shaky and I had a brush-tip pen, I could only make so much, you know? hahaha.
ADAM: Would you describe the imagery as apocalyptic? The man in the gas mask with the cryptic phrase "Here I am God Here Where is" certainly seems to suggest something apocalyptic to me.
CORY: Yeah, I think that's what I was trying to convey. I used to have dreams and nightmares about everything being completely destroyed like that.
ADAM: Thecenterpiece of the sketch has the phrase "Forget Her". It looks like you were about to either continue a thought or repeat the phrase just below it but instead you scribbled that part out.
CORY: Partway through the hallucination I was thinking about Jill, the girl that killed herself, and I've never been able to get that image out of my head, and I told myself 'forget her, forget her, forget her' and I think I scribbled it out as I was coming out of my trance.
ADAM: When your in these trances do you feel trapped? It sounds like these intrusive thoughts almost attack you.
CORY: Yeah, sometimes more than others, sometimes less. In the longer ones I feel like I'm being attacked at times, or like I can't get away from it.
ADAM: Do you think about Jill often? For some reason it seems like during the trance your mind was subliminally forcing you to confront your thoughts about her.
CORY: Yeah, I do think about her often, and most of the time when I do, I try to think about something else for fear of breaking down or freaking out in remembering the event, you know?
ADAM: What is that monster type figure in the right center?
CORY: I think that was my interpretation of this ghost thing I saw, it's sort of this amalgamous (I don't think that's a word) shape with these long arms and these tiny eyes and baring teeth that move around inside of its body.
ADAM: Is this a re-occurring figure in your hallucinations?
CORY:Yeah, one of the very few figures, actually. It never seems to be happy with me.
ADAM: What do you think it represents?
CORY: If I had to take a guess I think it represents my fear of ghosts and apparitions like that. Those things have always freaked me out, and according to a friend I have who's way more into the spiritual world than I am, I'm sensitive to that kind of thing.
ADAM: I've had some pretty intense supernatural encounters myself, which I mentioned to you before... So you would say that some of the ghostly sightings you've had would be unrelated to your hallucinations?
CORY: I don't think I'd say they were unrelated, I think the sightings I may have had at a younger age had an impact on me, for better or for worse.
ADAM: Well what I mean is that you don't disregard them as being created by your mind. The ghosts that you have seen are real entities that exist independently of your psyche.
CORY: Yeah, that's right. I had this sort of inward debate with myself for awhile when I was younger and didn't believe in anything paranormal, per se.
ADAM: Whats the deal with the ghost coming out of the chair at the bottom of the page?
CORY: That was actually this drawing I made some time ago, maybe 2 years ago, with my friend Justin, it's kind of a cool story.
ADAM: Let's hear it.
CORY: We were both hallucinating (we have similar conditions) and he drew a chair on this desk in high school, and I drew a ghost coming out of it with that screaming face.
ADAM: What made you include it on this page?
CORY: To be perfectly honest, I'm not all that sure. Maybe I thought it would be a cool addition? It could coincide with the other ghost. I can't remember my thought processes terribly well.
ADAM: What does that latin phrase mean and why did you decide to make that ghost speak it?
CORY: The phrase means 'thinking dead' in latin, and I referred to the masses, or 'the meek' as such, kind of my way of subtly stating the human condition as I saw it. I got that phrase as part of a tattoo on my right shoulder somewhat recently.
For my first interview I decided to start with cult film legend Damon Packard. His work has had a great influence on me over the years, as a matter of fact the first time I watched his masterpiece "Reflections of Evil", was just a few days before starting on my latest film, "Pop Skull". Its jarring color palette and sound design no doubt had a profound effect on me and the final outcome of my own movie. I do not exaggerate when I say Damon Packard is one of the most important art filmmakers living today.
For those of you who don't know anything about Packard and his films here is a trailer for "Reflections of Evil".
What was the most disturbing moment of your life?
DP: Honestly i can't think of anything specific offhand, I was pretty upset when they threw me out of Universal Studios for unauthorized filming and nearly confiscated my camera/footage. The dark shadow of authority, big brother and control structures we live under are the most disturbing things. Punishment and fear, rules, restrictions, fines and fee's, they ruin lives. The fact that freedom can be taken away at any moment just by being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Law enforcement, courts, judges, prisons, jails, etc, these to me are the most disturbing things, they spoil the fun of life and many of the cold emotionally devoid people who work in these fields are equally disturbing.
My favorite scene from reflections of evil is the part where your character is being harassed by an endless drove of barking dogs. This scene seems to go on forever, always building in its intensity and madness. I can't even start to tell you how brilliant I find that particular sequence's use of sound and and editing. What was the inspiration there and are you afraid of animals?
DP: No i love animals, all animals especially dogs & cats.
When I watch Reflections of Evil I can't help but feel the movie is a sort of insane horror film. To me it gives the impression of how overwhelming and terrifying a large city like Los Angeles can be. Was that your intention?
DP: It was a simple statement about anger, fear, hostility ramped up to exaggerated levels. But it rings true for everyone everywhere, especially large cities full of frustrated angry people who want to kill each other at a moments notice for no reason. It's like that more than ever now, just as Orson Welles once stated. The dragon is unleashed. Your going to see more of it at alarming numbers including businessmen in suits, people are just ready to flip out and commit murder without any hesitation.
Your films are often a sensory overload of sounds, colors and visual effects. One could describe your work, in particular Reflection of Evil, as feeling like a bad acid trip. Have you had any bad acid trips?
DP: Nope, never done drugs.
You seem to have a love hate relationship with Steven Spielberg. From watching your films its sometimes hard to say if you admire him greatly or you want to kill him.
DP: I want to kill him..just kidding. I've stated many times I was greatly inspired by Spielberg in the early days (late 70's early 80's) His visual choreography was what really got me into filmmaking
Lately you've shown a great deal of interest in Japanese animation, specifically Hayao Miyazaki. Have you always been a fan or did you just recently get into that world.
DP: Been a mega-buff of Miyazaki for many years, going back to the original mid 80's VHS release of "Nausicaa" (Warriors of the Wind") He's amazing in more ways that can be described and his success is well deserved. What was your worst fear as a child and as an adult?
DP: Going bald and not reaching certain goals by age 22, both of which happened.
I've often read that your favorite show is Mash. Can you explain why and do you like the movie?
DP: I'm a MASH-AHOLIC, what more can be said. It's a great show, great characters, good writing, etc Did you know Larry Gelbart just passed away today?
If you had to pick ten of your favorite films what would they be?
DP: Our Mothers House (1967) Night Terror (1977) Secret Ceremony (1968) The Innocents (1961) The Pumpkin Eater (1964) The Hospital (1971) Cold Night's Death (1973) That Cold Day in the Park (1969) Lost Horizon (1973) Night of the Iguana (1967) What are five films you think that any film student should see?
DP: All the Kind Strangers (1974) Home for the Holidays (1972) Sarah T Portrait of an Alcoholic (1975) Addio zio Tom (1971) The Visitor (1978)
What in your opinion is consciousness?
DP: It is contained within Miyazaki films Do you believe in life after death? Reincarnation?
DP: Yes and life during death as well.
Hope you enjoyed the interview. Damon is currently raising money for some new upcoming projects, go to this link to help him make it happen. http://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-09-04.1978783974
Adam Wingard is the award winning director of "Pop Skull" and "Home Sick". He is currently working on his third feature film "Laura Ray".
Check out his Photo Blog at http://adamwingard.wordpress.com and his film Pop Skulls official site at
www.popskullthemovie.com